For discussions of lace history and lace identification.  You can post a photo into a comment box for a lace you want to discuss.  Bobblin lace history.  About historic lace. Kinds of lace.  Distinguish types of lace.

We can identify a piece of lace for you, but we need good detail.  At least one photo with this kind of detail is necessary.  Otherwise we are just guessing.  A shot of the whole thing is useful because that shows us the style.  Style gives us clues to date and possibly geographical origin.  But we need the detail shot to tell us how it was made.

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Examples + Resources


Jean Leader's new website, different types of lace -

To compare needle lace, tatting and crochet, Kathleen Minniti's sampler.

My antique lace boards on Pinterest 

My collection of boards on Pinterest 

Jo Edkins lace collection online:

Laces compared:

A university based website specializing in the social history attached to lacemaking


 Bobbin lace    antiquebobbinlace     bobbinlace3     Needle lace    needlelace2 

For recognizing Swedish bobbin lace:

Tatting     tatting2   tatting3      

Filet lace    filetlace2    filetlace3   filet lace4    Buratto 

Sol lace   sollace2   sol lace3

Knitted lace    knittedlace2     Crochet lace        Irish crochet lace      IrishCrochet2      


Bobbin tape lace  bobbin tape lace 2   

Mixed tape lace-machinetape      Romanian needlepoint lace  


Embroidery on tulle-needlerun      Embroidery on tulle-tambour        Carrickmacross  



This is what it takes to make a cloth stitch strip with a machine. I don't know which machine this is. ;

Chemical lace   ChemicalLace2  chemical lace3     chemical lace4     

See this for a technical explanation of the chemical lace process.

Barmen machine lace        Raschel machine lace     Leavers machine

machine1 (not sure what machine) a booklet which purports to distinguish machine from hand made laces. Some of the diagrams of typical machine structural elements are quite good. But too many of the comparison photos do not have enough detail to verify whether they are in fact machine made or hand made. The photos don't all show the individual threads. Still, the booklet is useful for the diagrams and descriptions of the various machine laces.




The Koon collection CD is a collection of images from the Eunice Sein Koon
Collection of Lace donated to IOLI by Ms. Koon. Ms. Koon was the editor of
Lace Craft Quarterly and a collector of lace.  It is not related to the
Minnesota collection to the best of my knowledge.  The CD is a series of
Powerpoint slides organized as the collection pieces are numbered.  There
are approximately 100 pieces of various types of lace in the Koon
collection.  Pictures from the CD could be copied and pasted into another
Powerpoint presentation, or the images could be used to request pieces of
lace from the collection for study by IOLI members.  Policy for use of this
lace is described on p. 58 of the IOLI Member Handbook. -- Jo Ann Eurell


The IOLI - Internation Organization of Lace, Inc. has a study box of lace fragments that members can borrow.  

(I am searching for a link)

IOLI also has a lending library for members' use

A site with good photos of high quality antique laces: ;

Discussion Forum

Not a lace ID: looking for a pillow style 15 Replies

Wandering through Wikipedia again today, I came across this kind of "lace loom" or "lace drum" according to Google translate. The page says "Tambour à dentelle". It wasn't represented on the bobbin…Continue

Started by Mary Mangan. Last reply by Mary Mangan Sep 12.

Identifying Lace on 1806 Pillowcases 9 Replies

I run a small history museum in Hillsboro, Kansas, and we received a donation of two pillowcases, and I would like to identify the type of lace on them so that we can have better information about…Continue

Started by Steve Fast. Last reply by Steve Fast Jul 17.

Help identifying old lace 8 Replies

Can anyone help me out? I have inherited lace from my Mother, Aunt, and Grandmother. I don't know how to describe it, other than "lace". My grandparents were from Ireland.I have no children so would…Continue

Started by Mary Schaefer. Last reply by Lorelei Halley Administrator Jul 9.

Swedish lace history 3 Replies

I happened across an article about a lace artwork event, and it linked to this website with lots of Swedish lace that I wouldn't have found otherwise. There are some cute old lace roller pillows in…Continue

Started by Mary Mangan. Last reply by Mary Mangan Jun 1.

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Comment by Laura Sandison on April 3, 2020 at 10:42am

Is it possible that this was finished by Zele needlelacers? It is an exquisite piece of Rosaline. I would certainly call it Rosaline because the majority of the work is made that way. However, there may have been a crossover such as we see with Brussels Duchesse: bobbin and needle laces joined. The Belgians were great at coming up with a faster way to produce something. As such, I would just say it was an experiment to employ more/different lacemakers.

Comment by Karen Thompson on April 2, 2020 at 7:40pm

Isn't there something about the very rectangular "alencon" mesh looking like bricks, is typical of Burano? And the rather fuzzy thread would add to my guess that it might have been made in Burano.  Just guessing. 

Comment by Devon Thein on April 2, 2020 at 4:39pm

I have encountered this piece, a bertha. It looks to me as though the motifs are typical of Rosaline. However, they are set in a needle made mesh. Does anyone know anything about this, for instance where it was made? Is it appropriate to call it Rosaline?

Comment by Elizabeth Ligeti on March 29, 2020 at 10:09pm

I had never heard of Redano Lace before, either. 

There is always something new to learn - about the Old laces!  I am so glad you ladies are on the list and share your expertise with us all. and photos, of course, and Lorelei, your highlighting of some of the photos with coloured rings is such a great help. Thank you all.  this is the very Best place to get an interesting Lace Education!

Comment by Lorelei Halley Administrator on March 29, 2020 at 7:09pm

Karen - I think you are right about droschel ground in that piece.

Devon and Carolina - This is the first time I've heard of Redano lace. Devon's photos do show a style similar to Pottenkant. But Pottenkant was a straight lace, and all 4 of Devon's are part laces: a tape which meanders through the design, curving and sewing to itself. And yes, the ground would be hung in afterwards. I have seen a lot of laces at the Art Institute of Chicago with similar structure and design, but Devon's photos are not quite on the same standard.

One other difference is that the Art Institute laces that I saw had something more like Valenciennes ground (hung in afterward) and Devon's laces look like standard braids connected to each other with windmill joins. A windmill join does not leave any holes at the connecting point, but the AI pieces all had little holes at the joining point.

It is my impression that this style was mostly used for alb laces -- deep flounces -- or altar frontals. And the dates were roughly late 17th, to mid 18th centuries.

Devon's laces are all solid tapes with no openwork or decorative stitches inside the tape, but a large percentage of the AI's laces were similar to Milanese.

I really don't know anything about Spanish laces. I did look at to see if there was anything similar there, but found no exact, or even close, examples. I also checked the photos from my website  but found nothing close enough. 

Comment by Carolina de la Guardia on March 28, 2020 at 2:24pm

The word "Redaño" in Spanish its meaning is "net". Redaño laces are also known as "convent laces", 17th and 18th centuries are generally made with very fine threads and is the result of the evolution of Flemish lace.  This is a  continuous lace  generally with floral designs.

The ground of these laces were worked as a net without pricking.

I have taken this information from "El Museo Didáctico del Encaje de Castilla y Leon"

Comment by Devon Thein on March 28, 2020 at 1:04pm

There are a number of examples of Redano in the Catalog of the Hispanic Society in America. They all claim to be from Huelva province, although different towns.
I have only found mention of Redano lace in the books of the Hispanic Society of America and a book by Bernhard and Ellen Whishaw, the Illustrated Dictionary of the Museum of Andalucian Pottery and Lace which seems to have been located in Seville when the book was published in 1913.

Comment by Devon Thein on March 28, 2020 at 1:02pm

I have encountered four pieces called Redano lace from Spain. They were originally from a collection of a man with some expertise in Spanish lace. I am trying to get a handle on what Redano is. It seems it is considered the same as caul lace, and caul lace is netting. Rather than being the name of a place of origin, it would appear that Redano means interior tissue as of a human or animal, the way caul does.
It seems to have a square mesh, although the mesh is not always made the same way. It seems to have a design of a lotus tree, sometimes with birds on each side. In some cases it looks like Antwerp laces with what I believe are chrysanthemum. Arguably the designs in the larger, coarser pieces are derived from the earlier more defined floral designs.
The pieces that I have encountered form the design elements with a large tape. The tape runs along one side before traveling into the motives. There is a lot of square plaited mesh between the motives which must make it difficult to make, logistically. Do they pin the large tape to a pillow or pricking and then fill in with the plaited mesh? Maybe it is easier on a Spanish style pillow? It seems to me that it must be made in large rectangles and joined through the center of a motif that goes the entire width of the edging actually meeting the zig-zag edging on the other side.
Does anyone have any familiarity with this lace? Is there any reason to think the pieces that I have encountered are not Redano lace?

Comment by Karen Thompson on March 28, 2020 at 12:28pm

Agree with Devon on the false plaits in the blue circles, and the ground in the green circle looks like Droschel to me

Comment by Devon Thein on March 28, 2020 at 11:34am

Thanks for your comments Lorelei. I think the sewings you see in the photo with the blue circles are associated with "false plaits". It is a very interesting way to approximate the appearance of a needle lace mesh using bobbins and plaiting.


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