Cluny, LePuy and Continental Guipure


Cluny, LePuy and Continental Guipure

This group is for Cluny, LePuy and continental guipure bobbin laces -- straight laces with a 4 strand braid/plait ground.  Designs may be geometric (Cluny) or floral (continental guipure).  Cluny designs often have a snaky clothwork trail meandering through the design. This trail uses the "passée a cheval" method, not the same as the Bedfordshire method.  LePuy designs usually have a cloth trail, but it is worked somewhat differently from either Beds or Cluny.  LePuy designs often have some very complex braided/plaited grounds. This group also includes Danish guipure lace, which are usually floral.

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Comment by Administrator on September 14, 2017 at 5:31pm
Comment by Elizabeth Ligeti on September 14, 2016 at 10:27pm

I had a look at that site. Lovely lace.  Oh!  I Must have a go at this type of lace - I have the Polychrome book on Cluny de Briode.  Tallies don't bother me, but I have never tried them with each one a different colour!!   they are all so well made. I wish mine looked as even as these ones.  Some of mine still come out a bit like Holly leaves!!

Comment by Administrator on September 14, 2016 at 5:16pm

This is reported as a new school for Cluny of Brioude. Their photos of multicolored tallies.

Comment by Arzhela LE MAITRE on September 14, 2016 at 10:41am

Hello Carolina,

Sorry for the delay.. too many work.. About the double or single thread for the silk, it depend of the effect they want to do. I've seen patterns with 1, 2 or 3 threads in the tallies.

About the stalk, the idea is that the colour of the  guide which makes the roulotté (wraps) is able to cover the threads which are inside. I think it's better more wraps than less. And you mustn't cut the guid during all the process so they recomend to mark it just to know that.

Just for the news, in Brioude we have a new school for polychrome. 

I think with very beautiful new patterns. Just let you see:

Have a nice lace day


Comment by Carolina de la Guardia on September 9, 2016 at 12:00am
Arzhela, good morning. I wander if Argentia silk is worked double or single thread.
I have also another question...when we work the stalk, how many wraps are made between the half knots in order to secure threads?
Carolina de la Guardia
Comment by Elizabeth Ligeti on September 8, 2016 at 9:54pm

Thank you for that information.

Oh! what beautiful colours all the threads come in.!!

I really Must have a go at the different coloured leaf tallies, with the wrapped , not plaited 'stalk" down the centre of them. The lace is SO pretty...!

Comment by Arzhela LE MAITRE on September 8, 2016 at 2:11am

Hello Elizabeth,

Here you have help about this silk we usually use in Europe.

in Silk number Deniers = 150 Den
Egyptian or British number = 70/2 Nec
in Number Metric = 120/2 Nm

This website is where you can buy this silk if you want. I use to make Polychrome de Brioude with linen and I use normally this one (you have to change the size of the pricking of course, but the result is very fine.

Goldschild fil de lin Nel 50/3, 225 mètres

I supose you have seen the website yet, but for more people who doesn't...

It's a beautiful lace and I love it. I hope you'll send us the photos of the work....

Hace a nice day

Comment by Elizabeth Ligeti on September 7, 2016 at 11:12pm

I am going to try some Cluny de Briode, as the multi-coloured leaf tallies in each piece look so good!!

What thread did you use, if you have worked from the book?  They seem to use embroidery floss, - by what I can understand of the instructions. I have not tried that thread for bobbin lace.  Denier 150 is mentioned too, which means what thickness??

Any help weould be greatly appreciated - along with any other tips for making lace from this book!!

Comment by Elizabeth Ligeti on May 19, 2016 at 9:48pm

Carolina  your English is excellent, so keep chatting to us!!  Laurence, thank you for that explanation. My school French was never good, and is now so far away in years that I have forgotten most of it, so I was struggling to understand the book.  Obviously I understood it correctly. Whew!!!! :)  I must have a go at it, - the pictures in the book are so pretty!

I must go back and watch the video all the way through. I just ran out of time yesterday!  There are so many different ways of achieving the same goal, it never ceases to amaze me!

Comment by Administrator on May 19, 2016 at 6:44pm

Laurence -- good explanation.  I saw many 3 pair tallies in the really old laces at the Art Institute of Chicago. I never actually tried to make one. Now I might give it a try.


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