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Hello, Here's a little piece that am wondering if it is possibly handmade Alencon? And any ideas about the edging lace? Type? Machine or handmade? The triangle measures 10" across and 4.75" at the…Continue

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Kimberly Davis replied to deborah greenfield's discussion Very old lace - date ideas anyone?? in the group Identification-History
"It could be 17th, but it could also easily be 18th or 19th.  That lace was made for a very long time with the styles changing very little. Kim"
May 15, 2016
deborah greenfield replied to deborah greenfield's discussion Very old lace - date ideas anyone?? in the group Identification-History
"Thank you. Very interesting. Gilian Dye said that she thinks the lace I've posted to be 17th rather than 16th. That seems to be the general concensus. "
May 15, 2016
Administrator replied to deborah greenfield's discussion Very old lace - date ideas anyone?? in the group Identification-History
"Kim - thanks for that link. A lot of really good examples. I looked at the Art Institute of Chicago's collections, but couldn't find any of their metallic laces among their photos. They don't have the entire collection photoed online.…"
May 14, 2016
Kimberly Davis replied to deborah greenfield's discussion Very old lace - date ideas anyone?? in the group Identification-History
"The Philadelphia Museum of Art has a lot of this type of lace.  Much of it is misdated, but you can see the pictures.  I am very thankful to have these digitized images, and would never say anything to the museum unless asked for my…"
May 14, 2016
Kimberly Davis replied to deborah greenfield's discussion Very old lace - date ideas anyone?? in the group Identification-History
"Here are some books that contain this type of lace, in case you may have them in the library of your lace club/guild: Laces from the Collections of the Jewish Museum in Prague 80-85608-86-3 Gekloppelte Metallspitzen, Deutscher…"
May 14, 2016
Kimberly Davis replied to deborah greenfield's discussion Very old lace - date ideas anyone?? in the group Identification-History
"I am on a deadline for tomorrow and have a class to teach this weekend, but once that is over I will look and find some museum collections that have similar laces for you.  Unfortunately all of the patterns I know of are in books.  Kim"
May 12, 2016
deborah greenfield replied to deborah greenfield's discussion Very old lace - date ideas anyone?? in the group Identification-History
"Hello Kim,  Gil Dye also seems to think it would be 17th rather than 16th C. Hard to say the age of the tunic but 17th would fit there as well. Do you have any online reference for lace from this period? Thanks much. Deborah"
May 12, 2016
Kimberly Davis replied to deborah greenfield's discussion Very old lace - date ideas anyone?? in the group Identification-History
"I am not sure about the tunic, but the lace is not that old.  If you suspect the tunic is that old, it is likely the lace was replaced.  The metal laces made in the 16th century were of a very different style, and this type did not exist…"
May 11, 2016
Carolina de la Guardia replied to deborah greenfield's discussion Very old lace - date ideas anyone?? in the group Identification-History
"Please, tell us Gillian's opinion...Thanks"
May 11, 2016
deborah greenfield replied to deborah greenfield's discussion Very old lace - date ideas anyone?? in the group Identification-History
"Thank you all very much. This is very helpful. I've written to Gil from her blog contact form."
May 11, 2016
Barb Gulden replied to deborah greenfield's discussion Very old lace - date ideas anyone?? in the group Identification-History
"I agree with Carolina about the discs and the passementrie work. The metals discs were typically hand made and everyone from the Germans to the Scandis , to the British made them. They look a lot like todays sequins but are much stronger to have…"
May 10, 2016
Elizabeth Ligeti replied to deborah greenfield's discussion Very old lace - date ideas anyone?? in the group Identification-History
"Gosh! Wow!  Fancy finding a garment with lace like that on it. Why don't you contact Gil Dye, at her web site - https://earlylace.wordpress.com/  I am sure she would help you. Her knowledge of these early laces is massive, and she…"
May 10, 2016
Administrator replied to deborah greenfield's discussion Very old lace - date ideas anyone?? in the group Identification-History
"Jeri Ames suggested to me that Gillian Dye might be interested in seeing these. Does anyone have her email? Or perhaps suggest that she take a look. I have seen similar laces at the Art Institute of Chicago. Let me take some time to review my notes…"
May 10, 2016
Carolina de la Guardia replied to deborah greenfield's discussion Very old lace - date ideas anyone?? in the group Identification-History
"Yes, this one from V & A, is later in time."
May 10, 2016
deborah greenfield replied to deborah greenfield's discussion Very old lace - date ideas anyone?? in the group Identification-History
"thank you so much. That is very interesting. Yes, I agree about late 16th / early 17th. Here is a more elaborate lace that bears some similarities from later in the 17th. http://collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O137808/pair-of-gloves-unknown/"
May 10, 2016
Carolina de la Guardia replied to deborah greenfield's discussion Very old lace - date ideas anyone?? in the group Identification-History
"As far as I know, it seems to me late 16th or early 17th.cent, I have seen before, here in Spain, these little metal discs inserted into lace, and were dated 16th cent. I find this lace very interesting because it is halfway between lace and…"
May 10, 2016

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