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Query about History of Dutch Lace
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I have to give a talk about one of the Dutch Lacemaker paintings. I know of over a dozen of these paintings, by different artists. Vermeer's is the most famous. They were all painted about 1655-1673,…Continue

Started this discussion. Last reply by Carolina de la Guardia Aug 17, 2013.

 

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Jo Edkins replied to Jo Edkins's discussion Identification of two pieces of lace in the group Identification-History
"Sorry for the gap. The ends were hemmed, and two pieces sewn together, so I had to undo that. In fact I cut the ends off finally! Here is the result. I tried to fray a bit of the net, and not other bits. It's all too small to satisfactorily…"
Oct 13
Lorelei Halley Administrator replied to Jo Edkins's discussion Identification of two pieces of lace in the group Identification-History
"You do have the actual lace. Carefully separating some thread at the end of the lace may make a determination possible. Working from a photograph has its limits. This has been an interesting discussion."
Oct 8
Jo Edkins replied to Jo Edkins's discussion Identification of two pieces of lace in the group Identification-History
"I still think that the bits you think are twisted are really plaits. The one that I put a red circle round shows the different elements of the plait. There isn't a pinhole in the middle (but I think these nets weren't always worked with…"
Oct 8
Lorelei Halley Administrator replied to Jo Edkins's discussion Identification of two pieces of lace in the group Identification-History
"Parts of your first lace look just fine as handmade, but that ground bothers me.  Yours looks like this: but it should look like this:   I realize that this photo is not close up enough. But it is the best I have. Your diagram of…"
Oct 7
Jo Edkins replied to Jo Edkins's discussion Identification of two pieces of lace in the group Identification-History
"I just want to add a little more. Here is a photo of Mechlin net in Wikipedia. Is it accurate? And here is one stitch high-lighted in the lace: It looks very similar to me. A pair from each side twisted, and then the half stitches on top of…"
Oct 7
Jo Edkins replied to Jo Edkins's discussion Identification of two pieces of lace in the group Identification-History
"It was bought by my sister-in-law in southern France, near the Spanish border. Do you think it's hand made? That's the important thing. Oh yes, it would be nice to say where it came from, but my sister-in-law would be very pleased to find…"
Oct 7
Lorelei Halley Administrator replied to Jo Edkins's discussion Identification of two pieces of lace in the group Identification-History
"Your closeups just above are very clear and verify that I really was seeing what I thought I saw. That ground is not Mechlin ground, but something entirely other. In Cook & Stott's BOOK OF BOBBIN LACE STITCHES there is a "2 thread…"
Oct 7
Jo Edkins replied to Jo Edkins's discussion Identification of two pieces of lace in the group Identification-History
"Here is an attempt to send the full piece again (scanned this time - the focus may be better."
Oct 6
Jo Edkins replied to Jo Edkins's discussion Identification of two pieces of lace in the group Identification-History
"OK. We'll discard piece 2 as machine made (which is I agree with). Concentrating on piece 1 - the two pieces sewn together. It looks like Mechlin net to me, but this is outside my comfort zone! I've done some closeups of various parts of…"
Oct 6
Lorelei Halley Administrator replied to Jo Edkins's discussion Identification of two pieces of lace in the group Identification-History
"At first I thought the one with the vertical stacks in the ground was handmade. But your closeups made me question that. The ground appears to be 2 threads twisted around each other, but they should be 4 strand braids/plaits if it were handmade…"
Oct 4
Jo Edkins replied to Jo Edkins's discussion Identification of two pieces of lace in the group Identification-History
"So you think that the first piece, with the two pieces sewn together IS hand-made - specifically using a Mechlin net - while the one with the single picot, given above is machine made? That was my feeling. Specifically about the footsides. The first…"
Oct 3
Lorelei Halley Administrator replied to Jo Edkins's discussion Identification of two pieces of lace in the group Identification-History
"Jo - I want to modify my response about these pieces.  This one is machine made. The motifs are not the right shape for handmade. But more specifically --  The red ring shows that thick bundle of threads at the headside, just inside the…"
Oct 3
Jo Edkins replied to Jo Edkins's discussion Identification of two pieces of lace in the group Identification-History
"I'm still not convinced they've all uploaded! Never mind, some have. It's very interesting that it is handmade. My sister-in-law (who bought them) knows nothing about lace, but swears she can tell the difference between hand made and…"
Oct 1
Jo Edkins replied to Jo Edkins's discussion Identification of two pieces of lace in the group Identification-History
"Here are the small versions"
Oct 1
Jo Edkins replied to Jo Edkins's discussion Identification of two pieces of lace in the group Identification-History
"Two didn't upload. Try again...."
Oct 1
Jo Edkins replied to Jo Edkins's discussion Identification of two pieces of lace in the group Identification-History
"And the first piece"
Oct 1

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What is your primary lace interest? Check more than one.
lace maker, collector, lace historian
What kinds of lace do you make or collect?
Torchon, Downton, Bucks Point, English Midland
What kinds of lace do you want to learn?
Various - when I have time!
Your personal website, if you have one.
http://gwydir.demon.co.uk/jo/lace/index.htm
Tell us more about your lace interests.
I got fascinated by bobbin lace when 5 years old seeing a lacemaker in Bruges. I taught myself to make lace from books a couple of decades ago. I made a website with free patterns for lace, plus how to make lace, because I found it so hard myself to learn from books.
Give us titles of lace books or articles you have written, that you want us to know about.
I have written two e-books, available from Amazon. I'm afraid that you can only read them using a Kindle or something with a Kindle app, such as an iPad. They are:
How to make Bobbin Lace
Bobbin Lace Stitches and Techniques - a reference book of the basics

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At 3:00pm on February 5, 2019, Lorelei Halley Administrator said…

Jo
I did receive your message, but have not yet corrected it on laceioli. Since Christmas eve I have had half my apartment in darkness. Every time I tried to use my computer everything went dark, and I was afraid to damage the memory. So I have been offline for most of January. Just 2 days ago I decided to move my whole computer desk to another wall where I do have reliable power. I wasn't ignoring you (don't ever think that), I just couldn't go online to fix your links. I will do that before the week ends.
Lorelei

At 4:51pm on January 18, 2018, Lorelei Halley Administrator said…

Jo - the lace identification additions to your website are very well done. A real plus and a good resource.

At 3:00pm on April 6, 2013, Lorelei Halley Administrator said…

Jo:  your advertisement is in exactly the right place.

At 5:50pm on April 5, 2013, Lorelei Halley Administrator said…

Jo, I have an answer.  There are 2 places you can post notices about your ebooks.  And I think you should use both.

First:  Everyone has the option of posting a permanent link to books they have written.

Look in the upper right hand corner of the screen.  There is a box with your name on it.  Click on SETTINGS.  That takes you to your profile page.  It contains all your answers to the sign-up questions.  Look at the last question.  It asks about books you have written, and where they may be obtained.  You can add the titles of your books there, along with links to the website.

You can go to that page and edit anything you have posted there, at any time.  If you write more books, you can add them.  Don't forget to SAVE.

Second:

We have a discussion in FORUM, which will be there permanently.  It is about our members wanting to buy or wanting to sell.  You can post a comment there describing your books.    http://laceioli.ning.com/forum/topics/sugestion-marketplace-exchange  

You can post links to the website where they may be obtained.

At 5:37pm on April 5, 2013, Lorelei Halley Administrator said…

Jo

Absolutely you can advertize your ebooks here on laceioli.  Let me think a few hours about the best way to do it.

At 2:06pm on February 8, 2012, Lorelei Halley Administrator said…

Jo and Devon

Jo I had thought you might have more contact with individual students.  What might that will use Devon's ideas as well, would be for me to start a discussion which will include Jo's url in its description.  And I'll explain how anyone who wants help with her lesson material can put the questions there.  Once I get it set up, you might want to put  a direct link to that particular discussion onto your website, inviting those using your work to ask their questions in our discussion area.  This is an opportunity to CREATE more back and forth with students using your site.

At 6:11pm on February 7, 2012, Lorelei Halley Administrator said…

Jo, you are definitely allowed to mention your website.  But we already have included it among our ONLINE RESOURCES page in the BEGINNERS group.  I want to offer you the opportunity to use our site to converse with your students, whenever they contact you with questions.  They would have to join laceioli in order to be able to ask questions.  And all of their questions and your answers would be public.

My question now is what is the best way to set this up.  I could set up a separate group for those using your website.  Or I could create a DISCUSSION in the BEGINNERS GROUP devoted to your website and conversations about it.  I can also set up some links on the opening page of laceioli to make your section easy to find. 

I would like it to be possible for other experienced lacemakers also to answer questions about material on your website, if they are so inclined and if you don't object.

At 2:34pm on February 7, 2012, Lorelei Halley Administrator said…

Jo

I've told you before that I think your lace lessons, with those cute little animated stitches, are wonderful.  If you want to use laceioli to communicate with your students about details they are having trouble with, please do.  Just tell your students to join and you can have back and forth communication with them, with pictures.  Please visit our BOBBINLACE BEGINNGERS group.  We have only just started so there isn't much to see just yet.  I'm trying to set up a lesson for braided/plaited lace, but it isn't ready yet.

Lorelei Halley    aka    "ioli"

At 12:34pm on February 7, 2012, Tatman said…

Jo,

Welcome.  Please read all the NOTES.  They explain our policies, and how the software works.  Join whatever groups interest you.  Post some photos of your lace.  If you have any questions, contact me and I'll try to help.

Mark, aka Tatman(co-administrator)

 
 
 

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