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Query about History of Dutch Lace
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I have to give a talk about one of the Dutch Lacemaker paintings. I know of over a dozen of these paintings, by different artists. Vermeer's is the most famous. They were all painted about 1655-1673,…Continue

Started this discussion. Last reply by Carolina de la Guardia Aug 17, 2013.

 

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Jo Edkins replied to Rosemary Houston's discussion Normandy Lace Identification in the group Identification-History
"I'm not an expert! So I can't date it for you. Wikipedia has a bit about it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_laceThat says that the Schiffi machines came in late 19C. You can tell Chemical lace because the threads look fuzzy.…"
Nov 11
Jo Edkins replied to Rosemary Houston's discussion Normandy Lace Identification in the group Identification-History
"My guess is Chemical Lace (sometimes referred to as Schiffli Lace). See http://gwydir.demon.co.uk/jo/lace/collection/needlemac.htm"
Nov 9
Jo Edkins replied to Jeanne B's discussion Machine, Needle or Bobbin Lace? in the group Identification-History
"Wow! Brilliant! Isn't the web wonderful!By the way, I think the actual knotting process starts about 2 mins in (maybe 2:10). The first 2 mins is all about prewinding and twisting the thread. Then, about 2:10 in, they show the knotting process.…"
Oct 28
Jo Edkins replied to Jeanne B's discussion Machine, Needle or Bobbin Lace? in the group Identification-History
"I tried putting a search key of "machine for making netting" into Google images, and got lots of fun websites! https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/dubai-curtain-velvet-fabric-net-making_60072356436.htmlThis is quite fun. Scroll down for…"
Oct 28
Jo Edkins replied to Jeanne B's discussion Machine, Needle or Bobbin Lace? in the group Identification-History
"Nets are not necessarily for craft use. There are fishing nets, for example. That would be much heavier, of course. But browsing on the web, I found bird…"
Oct 27
Jo Edkins replied to Jeanne B's discussion Machine, Needle or Bobbin Lace? in the group Identification-History
"It seems quite a lot of work to do a a mistake! Perhaps this was amateur work. I think that filet lace was one of the recognised hobbies, and getting thickness of thread wrong is a common amateur error. Or you could say that it isn't a…"
Oct 24
Jo Edkins replied to Jeanne B's discussion Machine, Needle or Bobbin Lace? in the group Identification-History
"If you sewed your lace onto material (as opposed to an edge or filling a hole), then its fineness wouldn't matter. The structure of the lace would be supported by the material, and it would be kept in place by the sewing. The sewing…"
Oct 23
Jo Edkins replied to Jeanne B's discussion Machine, Needle or Bobbin Lace? in the group Identification-History
"I'm not an expert, so defer to those who are! But my ideas are as follows: Not needle lace Not bobbin lace, because the net is atypical You're right - it does look like a filet net. The junctions look knotted to me. So the rest is…"
Oct 22
Jo Edkins replied to Guinevere's discussion Bedfordshire? in the group Identification-History
"I've seen it mentioned somewhere - Palliser? - that Maltese lace was exhibited at the Great Exhibition of 1851, at the Crystal Palace, London, and was greatly admired. This led to something called "English Maltese". The Great…"
Aug 27
Jo Edkins replied to Guinevere's discussion Bedfordshire? in the group Identification-History
"Here is a link for my comparison between bobbin lace and machine made lace, with the close ups that Lorelei mentioned:       http://gwydir.demon.co.uk/jo/lace/collection/bobbin.htm Click on what you're interested in. It…"
Aug 21
Jo Edkins replied to Guinevere's discussion Bedfordshire? in the group Identification-History
"I suspect that dating it hard, but I'll leave that to the real experts! My contribution is this:http://gwydir.demon.co.uk/jo/lace/collection/lace66.htm That is from my own lace collection, also mostly got from charity shops etc, but based round…"
Aug 20
Jo Edkins replied to Jo Edkins's discussion More unmarked patterns.... in the group Bobbinlace Beginners
"That's true."
Jun 22
Lorelei Halley Administrator replied to Jo Edkins's discussion More unmarked patterns.... in the group Bobbinlace Beginners
"Yes. And honeycomb units and a small diamond in cloth stitch are interchangeable, in structural terms. Another solution would be, moving from right to left -- point ground, cloth diamond, honeycomb unit, cloth diamond, point ground."
Jun 21
Jo Edkins replied to Jo Edkins's discussion More unmarked patterns.... in the group Bobbinlace Beginners
"Here is what I came up with...."
Jun 21
Jo Edkins replied to Jo Edkins's discussion More unmarked patterns.... in the group Bobbinlace Beginners
"I have an idea for the second one, quite different from yours, I think. I've tried marking up the pattern. I see Kat stitch or honeycomb in the middle, and Bucks point net each side. A bit weird, no clothwork or gimps - just these three strips…"
Jun 19
Lorelei Halley Administrator replied to Jo Edkins's discussion More unmarked patterns.... in the group Bobbinlace Beginners
"That looks like a probable and realistic interpretation. Well done."
Jun 18

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What is your primary lace interest? Check more than one.
lace maker, collector, lace historian
What kinds of lace do you make or collect?
Torchon, Downton, Bucks Point, English Midland
What kinds of lace do you want to learn?
Various - when I have time!
Your personal website, if you have one.
http://gwydir.demon.co.uk/jo/lace/index.htm
Tell us more about your lace interests.
I got fascinated by bobbin lace when 5 years old seeing a lacemaker in Bruges. I taught myself to make lace from books a couple of decades ago. I made a website with free patterns for lace, plus how to make lace, because I found it so hard myself to learn from books.
Give us titles of lace books or articles you have written, that you want us to know about.
I have written two e-books, available from Amazon. I'm afraid that you can only read them using a Kindle or something with a Kindle app, such as an iPad. They are:
How to make Bobbin Lace
Bobbin Lace Stitches and Techniques - a reference book of the basics

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At 4:51pm on January 18, 2018, Lorelei Halley Administrator said…

Jo - the lace identification additions to your website are very well done. A real plus and a good resource.

At 3:00pm on April 6, 2013, Lorelei Halley Administrator said…

Jo:  your advertisement is in exactly the right place.

At 5:50pm on April 5, 2013, Lorelei Halley Administrator said…

Jo, I have an answer.  There are 2 places you can post notices about your ebooks.  And I think you should use both.

First:  Everyone has the option of posting a permanent link to books they have written.

Look in the upper right hand corner of the screen.  There is a box with your name on it.  Click on SETTINGS.  That takes you to your profile page.  It contains all your answers to the sign-up questions.  Look at the last question.  It asks about books you have written, and where they may be obtained.  You can add the titles of your books there, along with links to the website.

You can go to that page and edit anything you have posted there, at any time.  If you write more books, you can add them.  Don't forget to SAVE.

Second:

We have a discussion in FORUM, which will be there permanently.  It is about our members wanting to buy or wanting to sell.  You can post a comment there describing your books.    http://laceioli.ning.com/forum/topics/sugestion-marketplace-exchange  

You can post links to the website where they may be obtained.

At 5:37pm on April 5, 2013, Lorelei Halley Administrator said…

Jo

Absolutely you can advertize your ebooks here on laceioli.  Let me think a few hours about the best way to do it.

At 2:06pm on February 8, 2012, Lorelei Halley Administrator said…

Jo and Devon

Jo I had thought you might have more contact with individual students.  What might that will use Devon's ideas as well, would be for me to start a discussion which will include Jo's url in its description.  And I'll explain how anyone who wants help with her lesson material can put the questions there.  Once I get it set up, you might want to put  a direct link to that particular discussion onto your website, inviting those using your work to ask their questions in our discussion area.  This is an opportunity to CREATE more back and forth with students using your site.

At 6:11pm on February 7, 2012, Lorelei Halley Administrator said…

Jo, you are definitely allowed to mention your website.  But we already have included it among our ONLINE RESOURCES page in the BEGINNERS group.  I want to offer you the opportunity to use our site to converse with your students, whenever they contact you with questions.  They would have to join laceioli in order to be able to ask questions.  And all of their questions and your answers would be public.

My question now is what is the best way to set this up.  I could set up a separate group for those using your website.  Or I could create a DISCUSSION in the BEGINNERS GROUP devoted to your website and conversations about it.  I can also set up some links on the opening page of laceioli to make your section easy to find. 

I would like it to be possible for other experienced lacemakers also to answer questions about material on your website, if they are so inclined and if you don't object.

At 2:34pm on February 7, 2012, Lorelei Halley Administrator said…

Jo

I've told you before that I think your lace lessons, with those cute little animated stitches, are wonderful.  If you want to use laceioli to communicate with your students about details they are having trouble with, please do.  Just tell your students to join and you can have back and forth communication with them, with pictures.  Please visit our BOBBINLACE BEGINNGERS group.  We have only just started so there isn't much to see just yet.  I'm trying to set up a lesson for braided/plaited lace, but it isn't ready yet.

Lorelei Halley    aka    "ioli"

At 12:34pm on February 7, 2012, Tatman said…

Jo,

Welcome.  Please read all the NOTES.  They explain our policies, and how the software works.  Join whatever groups interest you.  Post some photos of your lace.  If you have any questions, contact me and I'll try to help.

Mark, aka Tatman(co-administrator)

 
 
 

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