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Query about History of Dutch Lace
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I have to give a talk about one of the Dutch Lacemaker paintings. I know of over a dozen of these paintings, by different artists. Vermeer's is the most famous. They were all painted about 1655-1673,…Continue

Started this discussion. Last reply by Carolina de la Guardia Aug 17, 2013.

 

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Jo Edkins replied to Guinevere's discussion Bedfordshire? in the group Identification-History
"I've seen it mentioned somewhere - Palliser? - that Maltese lace was exhibited at the Great Exhibition of 1851, at the Crystal Palace, London, and was greatly admired. This led to something called "English Maltese". The Great…"
Aug 27
Jo Edkins replied to Guinevere's discussion Bedfordshire? in the group Identification-History
"Here is a link for my comparison between bobbin lace and machine made lace, with the close ups that Lorelei mentioned:       http://gwydir.demon.co.uk/jo/lace/collection/bobbin.htm Click on what you're interested in. It…"
Aug 21
Jo Edkins replied to Guinevere's discussion Bedfordshire? in the group Identification-History
"I suspect that dating it hard, but I'll leave that to the real experts! My contribution is this:http://gwydir.demon.co.uk/jo/lace/collection/lace66.htm That is from my own lace collection, also mostly got from charity shops etc, but based round…"
Aug 20
Jo Edkins replied to Jo Edkins's discussion More unmarked patterns.... in the group Bobbinlace Beginners
"That's true."
Jun 22
Lorelei Halley Administrator replied to Jo Edkins's discussion More unmarked patterns.... in the group Bobbinlace Beginners
"Yes. And honeycomb units and a small diamond in cloth stitch are interchangeable, in structural terms. Another solution would be, moving from right to left -- point ground, cloth diamond, honeycomb unit, cloth diamond, point ground."
Jun 21
Jo Edkins replied to Jo Edkins's discussion More unmarked patterns.... in the group Bobbinlace Beginners
"Here is what I came up with...."
Jun 21
Jo Edkins replied to Jo Edkins's discussion More unmarked patterns.... in the group Bobbinlace Beginners
"I have an idea for the second one, quite different from yours, I think. I've tried marking up the pattern. I see Kat stitch or honeycomb in the middle, and Bucks point net each side. A bit weird, no clothwork or gimps - just these three strips…"
Jun 19
Lorelei Halley Administrator replied to Jo Edkins's discussion More unmarked patterns.... in the group Bobbinlace Beginners
"That looks like a probable and realistic interpretation. Well done."
Jun 18
Jo Edkins replied to Jo Edkins's discussion More unmarked patterns.... in the group Bobbinlace Beginners
"Here is my attempt at a reduced version of the first one. The left edge is repeated on the right of the diamonds, of course. But that made it too many bobbins for my liking. It's a very short repeat, which would be a bit boring to work with the…"
Jun 18
Jo Edkins replied to Jo Edkins's discussion More unmarked patterns.... in the group Bobbinlace Beginners
"Oh of course, I forgot about the gimp! That makes sense.... Maybe think along those lines. I'd probably end up with something that wasn't the original, but might be fun. As for the other one - as you say, it's such a mess. I wonder…"
Jun 10
Lorelei Halley Administrator replied to Jo Edkins's discussion More unmarked patterns.... in the group Bobbinlace Beginners
"As for #2 even right side up I can't make heads or tails of it. But torchon seems more possible. There may be stacks of tallies in diagonal rows near the center of the piece."
Jun 10
Lorelei Halley Administrator replied to Jo Edkins's discussion More unmarked patterns.... in the group Bobbinlace Beginners
"Bucks point did occasionally use kat stitch in some pieces. But I have never seen it in Beds or Cluny.  Here are some Tonder made by Doris Southard many years ago. Lots of them have large honeycomb rings near the edge, with a picot edge. Tonder…"
Jun 10
Jo Edkins replied to Jo Edkins's discussion More unmarked patterns.... in the group Bobbinlace Beginners
"And the first pattern - good thought about Kat stitch. I'm not sure about the honeycomb idea - wouldn't it be inconspicuous between Kat stitch and point ground? From my own experience of lace design, when you're messing around with…"
Jun 10
Jo Edkins replied to Jo Edkins's discussion More unmarked patterns.... in the group Bobbinlace Beginners
"Here you are! Looking at it, I wonder if the centre is honeycomb (or Kat stitch) with the edges being Bucks point ground. (The grid suggests that we are in Bucks Point territory here). But that seems all wrong with what I know of Bucks Point! Too…"
Jun 10
Lorelei Halley Administrator replied to Jo Edkins's discussion More unmarked patterns.... in the group Bobbinlace Beginners
"On your 2nd one, the flattened diamonds of the ground suggest point ground. The units near the center with larger blank areas could be cloth or half stitch spots, possibly tallies. But I need to see it right way up. My neck won't bend far…"
Jun 9
Lorelei Halley Administrator replied to Jo Edkins's discussion More unmarked patterns.... in the group Bobbinlace Beginners
"Yes the difference in size between the ground near the footside and the ground near those "diamonds" is a problem. The only thing I can think of is kat stitch ground, where you only put a pin under the top stitch of each kat st unit, as…"
Jun 9

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What is your primary lace interest? Check more than one.
lace maker, collector, lace historian
What kinds of lace do you make or collect?
Torchon, Downton, Bucks Point, English Midland
What kinds of lace do you want to learn?
Various - when I have time!
Your personal website, if you have one.
http://gwydir.demon.co.uk/jo/lace/index.htm
Tell us more about your lace interests.
I got fascinated by bobbin lace when 5 years old seeing a lacemaker in Bruges. I taught myself to make lace from books a couple of decades ago. I made a website with free patterns for lace, plus how to make lace, because I found it so hard myself to learn from books.
Give us titles of lace books or articles you have written, that you want us to know about.
I have written two e-books, available from Amazon. I'm afraid that you can only read them using a Kindle or something with a Kindle app, such as an iPad. They are:
How to make Bobbin Lace
Bobbin Lace Stitches and Techniques - a reference book of the basics

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At 4:51pm on January 18, 2018, Lorelei Halley Administrator said…

Jo - the lace identification additions to your website are very well done. A real plus and a good resource.

At 3:00pm on April 6, 2013, Lorelei Halley Administrator said…

Jo:  your advertisement is in exactly the right place.

At 5:50pm on April 5, 2013, Lorelei Halley Administrator said…

Jo, I have an answer.  There are 2 places you can post notices about your ebooks.  And I think you should use both.

First:  Everyone has the option of posting a permanent link to books they have written.

Look in the upper right hand corner of the screen.  There is a box with your name on it.  Click on SETTINGS.  That takes you to your profile page.  It contains all your answers to the sign-up questions.  Look at the last question.  It asks about books you have written, and where they may be obtained.  You can add the titles of your books there, along with links to the website.

You can go to that page and edit anything you have posted there, at any time.  If you write more books, you can add them.  Don't forget to SAVE.

Second:

We have a discussion in FORUM, which will be there permanently.  It is about our members wanting to buy or wanting to sell.  You can post a comment there describing your books.    http://laceioli.ning.com/forum/topics/sugestion-marketplace-exchange  

You can post links to the website where they may be obtained.

At 5:37pm on April 5, 2013, Lorelei Halley Administrator said…

Jo

Absolutely you can advertize your ebooks here on laceioli.  Let me think a few hours about the best way to do it.

At 2:06pm on February 8, 2012, Lorelei Halley Administrator said…

Jo and Devon

Jo I had thought you might have more contact with individual students.  What might that will use Devon's ideas as well, would be for me to start a discussion which will include Jo's url in its description.  And I'll explain how anyone who wants help with her lesson material can put the questions there.  Once I get it set up, you might want to put  a direct link to that particular discussion onto your website, inviting those using your work to ask their questions in our discussion area.  This is an opportunity to CREATE more back and forth with students using your site.

At 6:11pm on February 7, 2012, Lorelei Halley Administrator said…

Jo, you are definitely allowed to mention your website.  But we already have included it among our ONLINE RESOURCES page in the BEGINNERS group.  I want to offer you the opportunity to use our site to converse with your students, whenever they contact you with questions.  They would have to join laceioli in order to be able to ask questions.  And all of their questions and your answers would be public.

My question now is what is the best way to set this up.  I could set up a separate group for those using your website.  Or I could create a DISCUSSION in the BEGINNERS GROUP devoted to your website and conversations about it.  I can also set up some links on the opening page of laceioli to make your section easy to find. 

I would like it to be possible for other experienced lacemakers also to answer questions about material on your website, if they are so inclined and if you don't object.

At 2:34pm on February 7, 2012, Lorelei Halley Administrator said…

Jo

I've told you before that I think your lace lessons, with those cute little animated stitches, are wonderful.  If you want to use laceioli to communicate with your students about details they are having trouble with, please do.  Just tell your students to join and you can have back and forth communication with them, with pictures.  Please visit our BOBBINLACE BEGINNGERS group.  We have only just started so there isn't much to see just yet.  I'm trying to set up a lesson for braided/plaited lace, but it isn't ready yet.

Lorelei Halley    aka    "ioli"

At 12:34pm on February 7, 2012, Tatman said…

Jo,

Welcome.  Please read all the NOTES.  They explain our policies, and how the software works.  Join whatever groups interest you.  Post some photos of your lace.  If you have any questions, contact me and I'll try to help.

Mark, aka Tatman(co-administrator)

 
 
 

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