Point Ground Laces

Point ground laces include Bucks point, Tonder, Bayeux, Chantilly, Blonde, Beveren and others that use the CTTT ground.  During the 19th century virtually every nation that had a bobbin lace making tradition produced some form of point ground lace.

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Proficiency Program Point Ground 28 Replies

I'd like to hear some pros and cons to the IOLI point ground proficiency program. I'm thinking of trying it. I have no group in my area, so that would be a reason to do it. But I do attend…Continue

Tags: point ground proficiency program, IOLI proficiency program, proficiency program, IOLI

Started by Joan Williams Near. Last reply by Elizabeth Ligeti Oct 12, 2016.

Schwarzarbeit from Ulrike Voelcker/Lohr 12 Replies

Hello Everybody, I'm looking for this book. The patterns and explaination of Ulrike are really amazing and i'd like to have this book as weel, so if anyone has and doesn't want or if anyone knows…Continue

Started by Arzhela LE MAITRE. Last reply by Arzhela LE MAITRE Apr 19, 2016.

Magic Thread 11 Replies

Hi again,kids!Am in love with my new book, "The Grammar of Point Ground." But, uh, what the heck's a Magic Thread?Continue

Tags: grammar, of, thread, magic, ground

Started by Joan Williams Near. Last reply by Nancy Baldwin Dec 6, 2015.


Lia Baumeister-Jonker has generously given me permission to post her 2nd Chantilly bobbin lace lesson here. It was originally published in the IOLI Bulletin Volume 35 Number 2 in winter 2015These are…Continue

Tags: Chantilly lace tutorial, Chantilly lace lesson, Chantilly lace

Started by Lorelei Halley Administrator Sep 30, 2015.

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Comment by Holly Powers on March 23, 2017 at 9:31am
Thank you so much, Helen! My impatience is awesome at its best. I just need to get back in and focus, focus, focus, not worrying about the why's and wherefores, but just doing the lacemaking until it clicks. I appreciate your offer. :) Holly
Comment by Helen Bell on March 23, 2017 at 9:19am

Hi Holly :-)  Good for you, for your persistence!

The books that have directions and working diagrams give you the order of work.  I know, when we've worked with you, we've sometimes switched it up a little to a more logical order.

I think the one thing that the books cannot convey is the 'light bulb moment' we all have when it clicks as to how the parts connect, and how the threads really and truly move through the lace.  That moment occurs with any kind of learning - not just lacemaking.

This part of lacemaking comes when it's ready and our brain is ready to make that connection.  We get lots of little ones along the way, and some big ones too.

I struggled with gimp outside the pin in Bedfordshire for a bit, and I finally had a light bulb moment in a Barbara Underwood workshop, and it made sense.  it wasn't that I wasn't doing it correctly, I just wasn't understanding what I was doing, and the movements made no sense.

I'll email you this evening with some ideas ... :-)


Comment by Gabriele Patzner on March 23, 2017 at 8:20am

I I had to recommend just one book about the technique of point ground laces, it would be Ulrike Voelckers " The Grammar of Point Ground". It is  systematically covering all the bases and does explain how different ways of working things change the appearance of finished lace, all illustrated in very good diagramms and fotographs. So if you design your own, you will most certainly find it a good reference book on solving next to any problem you might encounter in realizing them.

Comment by Holly Powers on March 23, 2017 at 7:51am
Hi all. Before moving from Washington State to Missouri 5 months ago, I was struggling (and still am) to learn Bucks, and decided to dedicate this year to making it. One thing I'd like to try and understand is (if possible--I don't always "see" things the way longtime Lacemakers do) the choices I have on which area to work in which order in a pricking. That is, most books I own have written instructions and the working diagram, but there are strategies one can employ during working--I know this from one of my excellent instructors, Eileen Collins, from LPS. Is there any way to find this knowledge in books, or, does it just get passed along via word of mouth from people at much more advanced levels of lacemaking than your own who have a "design" brain?
Comment by Lorelei Halley Administrator on October 12, 2016 at 5:24pm

Gabriele - show us pictures!  I think I should go back to some geometric point ground when I finish my current one. I enlarged the pattern and am working it in black linen. I intend to sew it onto a cotton purse I will make for it.

Kate - pick the project that is nearest to being finished, and complete it. Put some nice music on right near you as you work.

Comment by Kate Bainbridge on October 12, 2016 at 5:00am
This has got me all geared up too! I have a cupboard full of unfinished pieces all on pillows and one may have to vacate!
Comment by Gabriele Patzner on October 12, 2016 at 12:16am

Lorelei, I just started learning Normandy Point Lace. The irregularity of it really gets to me. It's nothing like geometric Bucks Point, even if it pretends to be straightforwared and easy, but oh so beautiful! I'll be thinking of you when I struggle.

And, btw, thanks for the great resource you created here. I now own a few books I would otherwise never have found.

Comment by Elizabeth Ligeti on October 11, 2016 at 7:02pm

It is just getting a rhythm to the ground work - 3 tw, not 1 like in Torchon!  If you gently tweek the left bobbin it should go right back to the foot.- a good way to check if you have done all the twists. that is what I have to do the first few rows, till I get "into" the pattern, as I don't do Bucks Pt. very often - though I love the lace.   Hmm! You are getting me fired up to get a piece going, now!! thanks!!!! (another UFO on the horizon!!!)

Comment by Lorelei Halley Administrator on October 11, 2016 at 5:27pm

Both of you give good advice. Next time I'll plan ahead, before I even start.  It has been many years, over 10, since I last worked a floral Buck. And the 2 that I worked  were just short bookmarks. So I don't have a lot of experience with that form.

Comment by Gabriele Patzner on October 11, 2016 at 12:17am

I've had days like that. And simple looking is often deceptive. For me it helps to relax. Go for a walk before you break any threads, have a nice cup of tea while just looking a the diagramm, adjust lights and glasses, and try again.


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