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Identification-History

For discussions of lace history and lace identification.  You can post a photo into a comment box for a lace you want to discuss.  Bobblin lace history.  About historic lace. Kinds of lace.  Distinguish types of lace.

We can identify a piece of lace for you, but we need good detail.  At least one photo with this kind of detail is necessary.  Otherwise we are just guessing.  A shot of the whole thing is useful because that shows us the style.  Style gives us clues to date and possibly geographical origin.  But we need the detail shot to tell us how it was made.

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Examples + Resources

PHOTOS   

http://www.laceforstudy.org.uk/ 

Descriptions of several styles of lace - https://www.jeanleader.net/lacestyles/index.html

To compare needle lace, tatting and crochet, Kathleen Minniti's sampler.

My antique lace boards on Pinterest   

http://www.pinterest.com/lynxlacelady/bobbin-lace-antique/ 

http://www.pinterest.com/lynxlacelady/needle-lace-antique/ 

My collection of boards on Pinterest http://www.pinterest.com/lynxlacelady/ 

Jo Edkins lace collection online:  http://gwydir.demon.co.uk/jo/lace/collection/index.htm

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 Bobbin lace    antiquebobbinlace     bobbinlace3     Needle lace    needlelace2 

For recognizing Swedish bobbin lace:  http://elsapetersonsspetsaffar.com/

Tatting     tatting2   tatting3      

Filet lace    filetlace2    filetlace3   filet lace4    Buratto 

Sol lace   sollace2   sol lace3

Knitted lace    knittedlace2     Crochet lace        Irish crochet lace      IrishCrochet2      

TAPE LACE WITH PARTS NOT ALL BOBBIN MADE

Bobbin tape lace  bobbin tape lace 2   

Mixed tape lace-machinetape      Romanian needlepoint lace  

LACES WITH OTHER MACHINE MADE PARTS - net

Embroidery on tulle-needlerun      Embroidery on tulle-tambour        Carrickmacross  

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MACHINE LACES

This is what it takes to make a cloth stitch strip with a machine. I don't know which machine this is. https://www.facebook.com/brooklynlaceguild/videos/1496541547035682/ ;

Chemical lace   ChemicalLace2  chemical lace3     chemical lace4     

See this for a technical explanation of the chemical lace process.

Barmen machine lace        Raschel machine lace     Leavers machine

machine1 (not sure what machine)   

RESOURCES TO START LEARNING HOW TO IDENTIFY LACE

http://laceioli.ning.com/group/identification-history/page/online-resources 

http://laceioli.ning.com/group/identification-history/page/6475898:Page:1417 

http://laceioli.ning.com/group/identification-history/page/specific-pages-in-lynxlace 

IOLI.ORG'S RESOURCES

THE KOON COLLECTION

The Koon collection CD is a collection of images from the Eunice Sein Koon
Collection of Lace donated to IOLI by Ms. Koon. Ms. Koon was the editor of
Lace Craft Quarterly and a collector of lace.  It is not related to the
Minnesota collection to the best of my knowledge.  The CD is a series of
Powerpoint slides organized as the collection pieces are numbered.  There
are approximately 100 pieces of various types of lace in the Koon
collection.  Pictures from the CD could be copied and pasted into another
Powerpoint presentation, or the images could be used to request pieces of
lace from the collection for study by IOLI members.  Policy for use of this
lace is described on p. 58 of the IOLI Member Handbook. -- Jo Ann Eurell

LACE STUDY BOX

The IOLI - Internation Organization of Lace, Inc. has a study box of lace fragments that members can borrow.  

(I am searching for a link)

IOLI also has a lending library for members' use

http://www.internationalorganizationoflace.org/library1.html

http://laceioli.ning.com/group/international-organization-of-lace-inc/page/ioli-advanced-study-of-lace

A site with good photos of high quality antique laces: http://www.mendes.co.uk/antique.bobbin.lace.p.two.html ;

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Comment by Helen Bell on April 2, 2013 at 5:52pm

There's also a very neat little book that's been published by the Lace Arts Council for Education, called 'Lace:  a quick guide to identification'.  It would tuck into a purse or bag.  For a go-to on the fly book, it looks to be very handy.

Comment by Lorelei Halley Administrator on April 2, 2013 at 4:04pm

Karen and Devon

Thanks for your suggestions.  I'm adding them to the booklist.

Comment by Devon Thein on April 2, 2013 at 3:41pm
I suggest books by Elizabeth Kurella for lace that you might encounter at flea markets and auctions. Heather Toomer's books are good for lace that you might encounter for sale if you are lucky, but more likely in museums. For the hard core, of course, the Santina Levey book, Lace: a History is the best. The Pictorial archive might be more interesting to graphic artists as there are many images, but very little explanation.
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Comment by Karen Thompson on April 2, 2013 at 3:17pm

Linda,

Welcome.   "Pictorial Archive of Lace Designs: 325 Historic Examples (Dover Pictorial Archive." has photos or drawings of (presumably) 325 laces without any explanation as to what they are. So I don't think it is very useful. The prints are not clear enough to study the laces even if you knew what you were looking at. 

Karen

Comment by Linda Jenkins on April 2, 2013 at 3:10pm

Thank you! These web pages looks very useful indeed, and I don't find them too basic at all!

I look forward to hearing other book recommendations from other members of the group.

Thanks.

Linda

Comment by Lorelei Halley Administrator on April 2, 2013 at 2:55pm

Linda

I haven't heard of that particular book, so I can't advise.  There were several pattern books published in the period 1550-1650.  The title makes me think it might possibly be one of those.  They might be useful in dating a piece of lace.  If you find an actual lace similar in design to one of the pattern books, your actual lace may either be that old, or may be a relatively modern copy of an old lace.

In general, to get started learning how to identify lace, we have collected some resources.  I don't know the level of your current knowledge, so please don't be offended if the suggestions I make are too basic.

Look at the 2nd column on this page.  Near the top are icons of the group members.  Just below that group of icons is a section called PAGES.  One page has links to good sites where you can find basic lace identification photos.  There is also a short list of recommended books.  But I think the ONLINE RESOURCES page will give you plenty of information to start with.

Anybody else heard of the book Linda mentioned?

Comment by Linda Jenkins on April 2, 2013 at 1:44pm

Hello, everyone. I'm new to Laceioli, and therefore new to this group. I'm excited to be here!

I don't make lace myself, but have recently become interested in learning about lace. This interest was sparked by my becoming obsessed with Pinterest. I have a Lace board, and was originally intending just to post photos of beautiful laces. But now I'd like to learn about the many different types of lace and how to identify them.

Now for my question: Amazon.com recently asked if I'd be interested in buying this book: "Pictorial Archive of Lace Designs: 325 Historic Examples (Dover Pictorial Archive." (Boy, do they know how to tempt me!) Does anyone have this book? Would it be a good one for me to get as a novice wanting to learn how to identify lace?

And, can anyone suggest other books that might be useful for me?

Thanks in advance, all.

Linda

Comment by Lorelei Halley Administrator on March 21, 2013 at 6:23pm

The size you describe is a little large for lappets  They would have been 30 inches long and about 8 to 10 inches wide.  A table runner?  Other ideas?

Comment by Kelly Bargh on March 21, 2013 at 5:30pm

Thanks so much again. It's about 2m long is 50cm wide at the middle and narrows quickly to about 10cm at the ends. It's pretty much scarf dimensions and shape. It is symmetrical (mirror image on the longtiudinal axis). The only reason why I think it might not be used as neckwear but headwear is only because it symmetrical, in that, it has no obvious collar side and 'dangly' side. It might make more sense to post a picture of it, I'll get on in tonight. Oh yes exactly, it is completely lace, and it doess look more to be sections coming apart rather than an unravelling. Which is why I thought I could attempt to repair it. It is very well joined, it's subtle with no obvious seam line and the main body consists of the same pattern as the edging. I admire the skill of the maker. I thought to get a silk thread (much finer than the one used and in the same colour) and sew it together in a way that does not obviously show. There are 4 'holes' the largest being about 15cm long, and apart from that and a few very minor tiny stains, it's in very good condition. I'll post more pics of these too.

Comment by Lorelei Halley Administrator on March 20, 2013 at 11:23pm

What is the overall size of the object.  That is first in figuring out how it was to be used.

Maltese that occurs as a solid lace (with no cloth center, the whole thing being lace) often was made with the edging made as one part, and the center made separately.  Then the 2 parts were sewn together.  If that is the kind of damage you have, fixing it by carefully overcasting the two parts together would be fairly simple.

But if the lace itself is ripped and has broken threads, I would say that would require some knowledge of bobbin lace structure so you can get the parts aligned without doing more damage.

 
 
 

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