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Identification-History

For discussions of lace history and lace identification.  You can post a photo into a comment box for a lace you want to discuss.  Bobblin lace history.  About historic lace. Kinds of lace.  Distinguish types of lace.

We can identify a piece of lace for you, but we need good detail.  At least one photo with this kind of detail is necessary.  Otherwise we are just guessing.  A shot of the whole thing is useful because that shows us the style.  Style gives us clues to date and possibly geographical origin.  But we need the detail shot to tell us how it was made.

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Bobbin lace    antiquebobbinlace     bobbinlace3     Needle lace    needlelace2 

http://www.laceforstudy.org.uk/ 

To compare needle lace, tatting and crochet, Kathleen Minniti's sampler.

My antique lace boards on Pinterest   

http://www.pinterest.com/lynxlacelady/bobbin-lace-antique/ 

http://www.pinterest.com/lynxlacelady/needle-lace-antique/ 

My collection of boards on Pinterest http://www.pinterest.com/lynxlacelady/

Tatting     tatting2   tatting3      

Embroidery on tulle-needlerun      Embroidery on tulle-tambour        Carrickmacross  

Filet lace    filetlace2    filetlace3   filet lace4    Buratto 

Sol lace   sollace2   sol lace3

Knitted lace    knittedlace2     Crochet lace        Irish crochet lace      IrishCrochet2      

Chemical lace   ChemicalLace2  chemical lace3     chemical lace4     

See this for a technical explanation of the chemical lace process.

Barmen machine lace        Raschel machine lace     Leavers machine

machine1 (not sure what machine)   

I don't know how this machine relates to the Barmen or Rascheel (or other machine)

Bobbin tape lace  bobbin tape lace 2   

Mixed tape lace-machinetape      Romanian needlepoint lace  

For recognizing Swedish bobbin lace:  http://elsapetersonsspetsaffar.com/

RESOURCES TO START LEARNING HOW TO IDENTIFY LACE

http://laceioli.ning.com/group/identification-history/page/online-resources 

http://laceioli.ning.com/group/identification-history/page/6475898:Page:1417 

http://laceioli.ning.com/group/identification-history/page/specific-pages-in-lynxlace 

IOLI.ORG'S RESOURCES

THE KOON COLLECTION

The Koon collection CD is a collection of images from the Eunice Sein Koon
Collection of Lace donated to IOLI by Ms. Koon. Ms. Koon was the editor of
Lace Craft Quarterly and a collector of lace.  It is not related to the
Minnesota collection to the best of my knowledge.  The CD is a series of
Powerpoint slides organized as the collection pieces are numbered.  There
are approximately 100 pieces of various types of lace in the Koon
collection.  Pictures from the CD could be copied and pasted into another
Powerpoint presentation, or the images could be used to request pieces of
lace from the collection for study by IOLI members.  Policy for use of this
lace is described on p. 58 of the IOLI Member Handbook. -- Jo Ann Eurell

LACE STUDY BOX

The IOLI - Internation Organization of Lace, Inc. has a study box of lace fragments that members can borrow.  

(I am searching for a link)

IOLI also has a lending library for members' use

http://www.internationalorganizationoflace.org/library1.html

http://laceioli.ning.com/group/international-organization-of-lace-inc/page/ioli-advanced-study-of-lace

A site with good photos of high quality antique laces: http://www.mendes.co.uk/antique.bobbin.lace.p.two.html ;

Discussion Forum

Help with Needlepoint Lace ID 16 Replies

HI All,I have recently acquired this wonderful lace collar which I believe is a needle or needlepoint lace. Even though I have purchased 3 books on lace ID(which I love by the way)  I often become…Continue

Started by Jill Schwartz. Last reply by Administrator Feb 15.

Lace Maps 3 Replies

I thought it might be useful to post a map of part of the lace making world. This google map shows part of modern Belgium. The red balloon i the town of Mechelen/Mechlin/Malines. It is haflway…Continue

Tags: Mechlin, lace history, lace identification

Started by Administrator. Last reply by Administrator Feb 11.

Lace Collar~ Totally Lost 13 Replies

I am hoping to learn more about this gorgeous lace collar. I am so impressed when I see the color markings on other posts by admin. I am also so impressed by the amount of knowledge on this amazing…Continue

Tags: collar, lace, antique

Started by Lorene. Last reply by Administrator Jan 10.

Hoping for some help identifying this piece 11 Replies

Hi, I was hoping for some help regarding the type of lace this is. I was also hoping that I might find out it's age and origin. Thank you all so very much. I have learned so much already just reading…Continue

Started by Lorene. Last reply by Helen Bell Jan 8.

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Comment by janice torcyzner on January 2, 2017 at 8:51pm
I am confused about how to post my images so I know you are specifically commenting on them particularly.
I see your comments with regard to other laces and get confused if you are discussing my images or someone else's .
Comment by Barbara Vanselow on January 2, 2017 at 8:42pm

Thank you so very much.

Comment by Administrator on January 2, 2017 at 7:44pm
Comment by Administrator on January 2, 2017 at 7:43pm

The 2nd piece, the one with the little dense rings, is a bobbin made Duchesse lace. Some call it Brussels Duchesse when it has needle lace elements, as this one does.       piece Z

I think we are looking at the back side of the lace.

The pink lines show where there is raised work, a sort of relief which should show on the right side of the lace.

The green rings circle areas of ground, but I think the ground is actually needle lace, a twisted buttonhole stitch.

The orange rings surround the "pops", needle made elements used as a decoration in some needle laces.

Comment by Administrator on January 2, 2017 at 7:30pm

To complicate things further, during the 1700s laces were made in that general geographic areas -- Flanders -- with many different grounds. This next links shows more of these.

https://www.pinterest.com/lynxlacelady/flanders-and-old-mechlin-bob... 

https://www.pinterest.com/lynxlacelady/mechlin/ 

Comment by Administrator on January 2, 2017 at 7:27pm

Barbara    piece X

The first one you posted, the one made of 2 edgings sewn together, is Mechlin bobbin lace. Possibly as old as the late 1700s, or possibly early 1800s, or possibly circa 1900. Dating this kind of lace is difficult because it was superseded by point ground laces during most of the 1800s, especially past 1800. there was a revival circa 1900 when these laces briefly reappeared. I haven't been able to see any clear way of distinguishing the different periods. But the complexity of the design does suggest the earlier dates. During the 19th century bobbin lace design was continuously simplifying, in an effort to make lace faster and complete with machine lace prices.

Mechlin is a straight lace, meaning that a bunch of bobbins are hung on at the beginning and the whole lace is made with those same bobbins, without adding or removing threads. The motifs are typically surrounded by a thick thread, called gimp. The ground is Mechlin ground. Here is an example of a Mechlin lace, with Mechlin ground, dating from the c. 1900 revival (from my website)

Comment by Barbara Vanselow on January 2, 2017 at 1:40pm

Comment by Barbara Vanselow on January 2, 2017 at 1:39pm

Also this second piece of lace, any information will be greatly appreciated. Looks like a combination of needle and bobbin.     Z

Comment by Barbara Vanselow on January 2, 2017 at 1:37pm

The ground looks like Mechlin to me.

Comment by Barbara Vanselow on January 2, 2017 at 1:36pm

I would greatly appreciate any information about this piece of bobbin lace.

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