Needle Lace

True needlelace is made only with needle and thread, on a temporary backing. 

Go to  for 2 years' worth of discussion, and lots of photos.

Since needlelacetalk is also a ning network, you can use the same email address and password for NEEDLELACETALK that you use here on ioli.

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NEEDLELACETALK is a network I created on ning in February of 2010, for true needlelace.

Needlelacetalk includes reticello, Pag, Turkish/Armenian oya, and puncetto, as well as traditional western European needle laces such as Alencon, point de gaze and gros point.

NEEDLELACETALK also has tutorials for beginners, and active groups for reticello and aemilia ars.

Margaret Ruhland, a member of needlelacetalk, has recently added a great many close up photos of antique needle laces in her collection.  Worth looking at: 

Each of her albums is a different piece.

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Comment by Florencia Moore yesterday
I thought I would give you guys a little update. I have now received the book suggested to me by Sally and while there are some round needle lace fillings described and shown, this particular filling is not in there. I will take a more in depth look and see if there is any mention or hints as to how it could be made based on the technique the book shows... fingers crossed! Thank you so much for your input and your interest! this group is my favorite <3
Comment by Lorelei Halley Administrator on April 29, 2020 at 5:11pm

Tell us whatever you find out, and show us pictures of your finished work. This is a very interesting exploration that you are doing.

Comment by Florencia Moore on April 28, 2020 at 5:27pm

Jenny! thank you for your input! I will certainly give it a try, I worked out the first and second steps and the couronne just not quite the little squares that are joined to the center, I shall experiment! :)

Comment by Florencia Moore on April 28, 2020 at 5:25pm

Hi Sally! During my investigation I did come across that book and was actually wondering if it had techniques and not only history, I'm so glad it does! I will get myself a copy, thank you!!

Comment by Sally Olsen on April 28, 2020 at 12:36am

Refer to Ayrshire Needlework by Agnes F. Bryson  Batsford 1989

In chapter 11 Materials, tools, stitches and hints, pages 82-84 have detailed instructions ans diagrams for Foundation eyelets for needlepoint fillings.  

Comment by Jenny on April 27, 2020 at 10:15pm

Hi Florence, I was going to suggest looking at Hedebo. Someone else may be able to provide you with a name.

Looking at the photo close up, it could possibly be worked in two stages, from the outside in. A buttonhole stitch that has been worked into the edge of the circle, then whipped at least once, ( maybe more) for strength. On the second round there are 8 larger loops into which more buttonhole stitches are worked in decreasing amounts as the center is approached. The final row may be whipped as well, connecting to a pre-worked buttonhole ring placed in the very center. As the connection takes place, whip back up the connection to the final  row of buttonhole stitches and repeat.

This is only my interpretation of how it is worked. Someone else may have other ideas. 

Comment by Florencia Moore on April 27, 2020 at 9:36pm

Hello all~ I am currently studying Ayrshire embroidery and have come across these wheel fillings that seem to show up in earlier examples, being a needle lace filling I thought I would ask you guys how they are made or what they are called. I have looked at Hedebo fillings as well but to no luck I could not find these. I have the book The A-Z of Whitework and the embroidery is discussed but these wheels are not featured. Any help would be greatly appreciated, thank you!!

Comment by Elizabeth Ligeti on June 3, 2018 at 11:27pm

Congratulations Janice. Gosh! that looks like a Very Yummy slice on the plate!! I hope you will bring it to Texas for Convention, so we can see it 'for real'.

You are SO clever at thinking up original ideas, and then putting them in to practice.

Whatever next?!!!!!!!!  :)   

See you soon!!!  Is there going to be anArachne lunch this year?

Comment by Maria Chilvers on June 3, 2018 at 5:42pm

Thank you Lorelei for the information.  It is very helpful.

Warm regards,


Comment by Lorelei Halley Administrator on June 3, 2018 at 5:37pm


It looks to me like puncetto, and Italian needle lace worked in the hand. Look at this album of puncetto photos.


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