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Identification-History

For discussions of lace history and lace identification.  You can post a photo into a comment box for a lace you want to discuss.  Bobblin lace history.  About historic lace. Kinds of lace.  Distinguish types of lace.

We can identify a piece of lace for you, but we need good detail.  At least one photo with this kind of detail is necessary.  Otherwise we are just guessing.  A shot of the whole thing is useful because that shows us the style.  Style gives us clues to date and possibly geographical origin.  But we need the detail shot to tell us how it was made.

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Examples + Resources

PHOTOS   

http://www.laceforstudy.org.uk/ 

Descriptions of several styles of lace - https://www.jeanleader.net/lacestyles/index.html

To compare needle lace, tatting and crochet, Kathleen Minniti's sampler.

My antique lace boards on Pinterest   

http://www.pinterest.com/lynxlacelady/bobbin-lace-antique/ 

http://www.pinterest.com/lynxlacelady/needle-lace-antique/ 

My collection of boards on Pinterest http://www.pinterest.com/lynxlacelady/ 

Jo Edkins lace collection online:  http://gwydir.demon.co.uk/jo/lace/collection/index.htm

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 Bobbin lace    antiquebobbinlace     bobbinlace3     Needle lace    needlelace2 

Tatting     tatting2   tatting3      

Embroidery on tulle-needlerun      Embroidery on tulle-tambour        Carrickmacross  

Filet lace    filetlace2    filetlace3   filet lace4    Buratto 

Sol lace   sollace2   sol lace3

Knitted lace    knittedlace2     Crochet lace        Irish crochet lace      IrishCrochet2      

Chemical lace   ChemicalLace2  chemical lace3     chemical lace4     

See this for a technical explanation of the chemical lace process.

Barmen machine lace        Raschel machine lace     Leavers machine

machine1 (not sure what machine)   

I don't know how this machine relates to the Barmen or Rascheel (or other machine)

Bobbin tape lace  bobbin tape lace 2   

Mixed tape lace-machinetape      Romanian needlepoint lace  

For recognizing Swedish bobbin lace:  http://elsapetersonsspetsaffar.com/

RESOURCES TO START LEARNING HOW TO IDENTIFY LACE

http://laceioli.ning.com/group/identification-history/page/online-resources 

http://laceioli.ning.com/group/identification-history/page/6475898:Page:1417 

http://laceioli.ning.com/group/identification-history/page/specific-pages-in-lynxlace 

IOLI.ORG'S RESOURCES

THE KOON COLLECTION

The Koon collection CD is a collection of images from the Eunice Sein Koon
Collection of Lace donated to IOLI by Ms. Koon. Ms. Koon was the editor of
Lace Craft Quarterly and a collector of lace.  It is not related to the
Minnesota collection to the best of my knowledge.  The CD is a series of
Powerpoint slides organized as the collection pieces are numbered.  There
are approximately 100 pieces of various types of lace in the Koon
collection.  Pictures from the CD could be copied and pasted into another
Powerpoint presentation, or the images could be used to request pieces of
lace from the collection for study by IOLI members.  Policy for use of this
lace is described on p. 58 of the IOLI Member Handbook. -- Jo Ann Eurell

LACE STUDY BOX

The IOLI - Internation Organization of Lace, Inc. has a study box of lace fragments that members can borrow.  

(I am searching for a link)

IOLI also has a lending library for members' use

http://www.internationalorganizationoflace.org/library1.html

http://laceioli.ning.com/group/international-organization-of-lace-inc/page/ioli-advanced-study-of-lace

A site with good photos of high quality antique laces: http://www.mendes.co.uk/antique.bobbin.lace.p.two.html ;

Discussion Forum

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Comment by Cindy Tiger on January 11, 2018 at 10:36am

I am completely stumped by this lace. Can someone help me out? Unfortunately, I only have a picture of the back, but I am attaching a close-up along with a picture of the edging. The pattern is like nothing I've seen before - but I really like it!

Comment by Lorelei Halley Administrator on December 14, 2017 at 4:46pm

Just for fun, I am posting a chart I made some years ago in an attempt to show where I think influences came from, and went to, various kinds of bobbin lace. Click on the image to see the detail.

Comment by Lorelei Halley Administrator on October 19, 2017 at 6:32pm

Here is a link to  an album of details. Some are machine lace, some are hand made. The little snippets were posted for comparison to lace that our members are trying to identify.

Comment by Lorelei Halley Administrator on October 19, 2017 at 6:30pm

Barbara - I looked at 284 and the thread paths don't look right. Not handmade. Lace 285 is clearer, definitely not handmade -- a machine made lace. But I'm not really clear in my own head which machine it would be. Lace 287 is not flat and not close up enough, but it doesn't look right, either.

Here is an example of hand made bobbin lace half stitch. Notice the horizontal line. 

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And this one shows hand made point ground.

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Comment by Barbara Vanselow on October 19, 2017 at 4:14pm

Sorry again, I got the wrong picture. This is part of the parasol  

output%20%287%29.jpg the last pic, 285 in another lace.

Comment by Barbara Vanselow on October 19, 2017 at 3:49pm

Sorry the two pictures are the same.

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Comment by Barbara Vanselow on October 19, 2017 at 3:47pm

This is something I have never seen before and is from a parasol dated late 1800's.output%20%284%29.jpg  

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some of it looks like it was done with a tambour hook but not the ground. 

Any help woud be greatly appreciated.

Comment by Lorelei Halley Administrator on October 15, 2017 at 6:24pm

An interesting "cauliflower head" lace. She calls it "old Flanders" and dates it to the 3 qtr of the 17th c.

http://cvosg-kant-en-fotografie.blogspot.be/2017/07/

Comment by Cindy Tiger on September 15, 2017 at 8:20pm

Thanks a million guys! The Denver Art Museum is undergoing a massive rehab and all the lace is now packed away for the duration. I will put a note on this one that it needs to be looked at more carefully when it is available again. But I really appreciate your help!

Comment by Lorelei Halley Administrator on September 5, 2017 at 8:06pm

My knowledge of needle lace doesn't come anywhere near my bobbin lace expertise. But I think Devon is probably right about the shape of the current object suggesting a 19th century date for object as it currently exists, made up of older laces repurposed. Your own idea about using the shape to date the cap is a good one, but it does have the limitation that repurposeing can throw that off.

I also think Devon is right about some strips of the cap being denser than others -- the 2nd and 5th in particular look denser.

But as to the date of the original fragments used to cobble this object together, I haven't a clue.

An attempt at making a cap with lappets (without actual lappets). Can you locate joins on the reverse side?

 
 
 

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