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Identification-History

For discussions of lace history and lace identification.  You can post a photo into a comment box for a lace you want to discuss.  Bobblin lace history.  About historic lace. Kinds of lace.  Distinguish types of lace.

We can identify a piece of lace for you, but we need good detail.  At least one photo with this kind of detail is necessary.  Otherwise we are just guessing.  A shot of the whole thing is useful because that shows us the style.  Style gives us clues to date and possibly geographical origin.  But we need the detail shot to tell us how it was made.

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Examples + Resources

PHOTOS   

http://www.laceforstudy.org.uk/ 

Descriptions of several styles of lace - https://www.jeanleader.net/lacestyles/index.html

To compare needle lace, tatting and crochet, Kathleen Minniti's sampler.

My antique lace boards on Pinterest   

http://www.pinterest.com/lynxlacelady/bobbin-lace-antique/ 

http://www.pinterest.com/lynxlacelady/needle-lace-antique/ 

My collection of boards on Pinterest http://www.pinterest.com/lynxlacelady/ 

Jo Edkins lace collection online:  http://gwydir.demon.co.uk/jo/lace/collection/index.htm

A university based website specializing in the social history attached to lacemaking

https://laceincontext.com/

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 Bobbin lace    antiquebobbinlace     bobbinlace3     Needle lace    needlelace2 

For recognizing Swedish bobbin lace:  http://elsapetersonsspetsaffar.com/

Tatting     tatting2   tatting3      

Filet lace    filetlace2    filetlace3   filet lace4    Buratto 

Sol lace   sollace2   sol lace3

Knitted lace    knittedlace2     Crochet lace        Irish crochet lace      IrishCrochet2      

TAPE LACE WITH PARTS NOT ALL BOBBIN MADE

Bobbin tape lace  bobbin tape lace 2   

Mixed tape lace-machinetape      Romanian needlepoint lace  

LACES WITH OTHER MACHINE MADE PARTS - net

Embroidery on tulle-needlerun      Embroidery on tulle-tambour        Carrickmacross  

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MACHINE LACES

This is what it takes to make a cloth stitch strip with a machine. I don't know which machine this is. https://www.facebook.com/brooklynlaceguild/videos/1496541547035682/ ;

Chemical lace   ChemicalLace2  chemical lace3     chemical lace4     

See this for a technical explanation of the chemical lace process.

Barmen machine lace        Raschel machine lace     Leavers machine

machine1 (not sure what machine)   

RESOURCES TO START LEARNING HOW TO IDENTIFY LACE

http://laceioli.ning.com/group/identification-history/page/online-resources 

http://laceioli.ning.com/group/identification-history/page/6475898:Page:1417 

http://laceioli.ning.com/group/identification-history/page/specific-pages-in-lynxlace 

IOLI.ORG'S RESOURCES

THE KOON COLLECTION

The Koon collection CD is a collection of images from the Eunice Sein Koon
Collection of Lace donated to IOLI by Ms. Koon. Ms. Koon was the editor of
Lace Craft Quarterly and a collector of lace.  It is not related to the
Minnesota collection to the best of my knowledge.  The CD is a series of
Powerpoint slides organized as the collection pieces are numbered.  There
are approximately 100 pieces of various types of lace in the Koon
collection.  Pictures from the CD could be copied and pasted into another
Powerpoint presentation, or the images could be used to request pieces of
lace from the collection for study by IOLI members.  Policy for use of this
lace is described on p. 58 of the IOLI Member Handbook. -- Jo Ann Eurell

LACE STUDY BOX

The IOLI - Internation Organization of Lace, Inc. has a study box of lace fragments that members can borrow.  

(I am searching for a link)

IOLI also has a lending library for members' use

http://www.internationalorganizationoflace.org/library1.html

http://laceioli.ning.com/group/international-organization-of-lace-inc/page/ioli-advanced-study-of-lace

A site with good photos of high quality antique laces: http://www.mendes.co.uk/antique.bobbin.lace.p.two.html ;

Discussion Forum

Chinese? 6 Replies

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Started by Sally Olsen. Last reply by Sally Olsen Feb 22.

Fun piece of bobbin lace 8 Replies

I recently got an inquiry through our museum email regarding this piece of lace.  The woman, who gave permission for me to share these photos, got this piece 40-50 years ago as an "old" piece  of…Continue

Started by Kimberly Davis. Last reply by Paula Harten Feb 5.

17th, 18th C lace and others for ID and comments 4 Replies

Hello, I acquired some lovely lace pieces today which I believe are:17th C Point de Venise, 8 cms deep. And 3 examples of 18th C Argentan / Alencon? These are all about 5 cms deep. Then an…Continue

Started by deborah greenfield. Last reply by Lorelei Halley Administrator Dec 7, 2018.

Identification Help 2 Replies

Hello I am currently in school for Museum Studies and one of our projects is a textile treatment. I have been having a hard time identifying the type of lace of my textile and was hoping someone…Continue

Started by Sarah. Last reply by Lorelei Halley Administrator Dec 7, 2018.

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Comment by Lorelei Halley Administrator on July 23, 2017 at 7:28pm

Paula, I have no idea.  there was a Venetian lace called Coraline, but I have never seen any close up. So I can't say if this is Coraline. Does anybody know anything about that kind?

Comment by Paula Harten on July 23, 2017 at 7:00pm

I agree with Loretta and Lorelei.  I had not thought about the needle weaving in reticella, as I have really no experience with it.  So, yes I would call it needle lace.  Now the question is, how old is it?

Paula

Comment by Lorelei Halley Administrator on July 23, 2017 at 5:26pm

I agree with Loretta. I do think it is handmade needlelace, but very unusual. The long branches appear to be a base of 5 vertical threads, woven under and over, row after row. A similar idea occurs in needle lace reticella, where the lace maker tries to suggest vertical and horizontal lines of woven cloth underneath (when there is no woven cloth at all.) So instead of the usual 4 base threads, this uses 5. I did see some elements that look like very short cucumber tallies, but it is possible to do that with a needle, instead of bobbins.

Red is 5 thread base, woven.    Green is bit which look like tallies.  Blue is a bar wrapped instead of buttonholed.

Lorelei

Comment by Karen Thompson on July 23, 2017 at 6:25am

Lovely blouse with machine made lace.

Comment by Paula Harten on July 23, 2017 at 12:27am

I think this beautiful work is woven.  Notice there are places where it is coming apart.  There are vertical threads and then single threads woven back and forth, not two at a time like bobbin lace.  Definitely not buttonhole stitches.  It is a type of woven braid with twisted and knotted connecting threads.

Comment by Loretta Holzberger on July 22, 2017 at 8:42pm

Definitely looks like hand made needle lace.  What a lovely dress!

Comment by Maija Aatelo on July 22, 2017 at 7:09pm

Gorgeous dress and lace! I'd say there may be hand made needle lace parts, partly it looks more like bobbin lace. But some details make me doubt whether it could anyhow be (partly) machine made. Can you add some more pictures to recheck, please.

Comment by Georgia Seitz on July 22, 2017 at 6:27pm

Sorry, no info here, but it is lovely.

Comment by Barbara Vanselow on July 22, 2017 at 4:57pm

I have Pictures of lace on a Worth Designed Dress French) from the turn of the century. The Blouse is silk velvet and I am wondering if anyone can give me any information about the lace on it.output%20%283%29.jpg,

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Comment by Lorelei Halley Administrator on June 30, 2017 at 7:30pm

I agree with Karen. If you look closely at the dense parts you can see vertical striping that runs parallel to the direction of working. Bobbin lace cloth stitch would have the passives and workers showing equal prominence. Also the thick thread surrounding the motifs is too prominent: it rises too far above the surface of the lace. This suggests it was run in by hand after the lace was made. Also look closely to how far apart the lace threads are that hold the gimp in place. In handmade bobbin lace the lace threads would cross over the gimp at every row. So the evidence suggests machine lace with a hand run-in gimp.

The dense parts don't look anything like close worked buttonhole stitches.

Lorelei

 
 
 

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