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Identification-History

For discussions of lace history and lace identification.  You can post a photo into a comment box for a lace you want to discuss.  Bobblin lace history.  About historic lace. Kinds of lace.  Distinguish types of lace.

We can identify a piece of lace for you, but we need good detail.  At least one photo with this kind of detail is necessary.  Otherwise we are just guessing.  A shot of the whole thing is useful because that shows us the style.  Style gives us clues to date and possibly geographical origin.  But we need the detail shot to tell us how it was made.

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Examples + Resources

PHOTOS   

http://www.laceforstudy.org.uk/ 

Jean Leader's new website, different types of lace - https://www.lacetypes.com/

To compare needle lace, tatting and crochet, Kathleen Minniti's sampler.

My antique lace boards on Pinterest   

http://www.pinterest.com/lynxlacelady/bobbin-lace-antique/ 

http://www.pinterest.com/lynxlacelady/needle-lace-antique/ 

My collection of boards on Pinterest http://www.pinterest.com/lynxlacelady/ 

Jo Edkins lace collection online:  http://gwydir.demon.co.uk/jo/lace/collection/index.htm

Laces compared: https://trc-leiden.nl/trc-digital-exhibition/index.php/lace-identification-7-examples

A university based website specializing in the social history attached to lacemaking

https://laceincontext.com/

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 Bobbin lace    antiquebobbinlace     bobbinlace3     Needle lace    needlelace2 

For recognizing Swedish bobbin lace:  http://elsapetersonsspetsaffar.com/

Tatting     tatting2   tatting3      

Filet lace    filetlace2    filetlace3   filet lace4    Buratto 

Sol lace   sollace2   sol lace3

Knitted lace    knittedlace2     Crochet lace        Irish crochet lace      IrishCrochet2      

TAPE LACE WITH PARTS NOT ALL BOBBIN MADE

Bobbin tape lace  bobbin tape lace 2   

Mixed tape lace-machinetape      Romanian needlepoint lace  

LACES WITH OTHER MACHINE MADE PARTS - net

Embroidery on tulle-needlerun      Embroidery on tulle-tambour        Carrickmacross  

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MACHINE LACES

This is what it takes to make a cloth stitch strip with a machine. I don't know which machine this is. https://www.facebook.com/brooklynlaceguild/videos/1496541547035682/ ;

Chemical lace   ChemicalLace2  chemical lace3     chemical lace4     

See this for a technical explanation of the chemical lace process.

Barmen machine lace        Raschel machine lace     Leavers machine

machine1 (not sure what machine)   

http://www.dressandtextilespecialists.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Lace-Booklet.pdf a booklet which purports to distinguish machine from hand made laces. Some of the diagrams of typical machine structural elements are quite good. But too many of the comparison photos do not have enough detail to verify whether they are in fact machine made or hand made. The photos don't all show the individual threads. Still, the booklet is useful for the diagrams and descriptions of the various machine laces.

RESOURCES TO START LEARNING HOW TO IDENTIFY LACE

http://laceioli.ning.com/group/identification-history/page/online-resources 

http://laceioli.ning.com/group/identification-history/page/6475898:Page:1417 

http://laceioli.ning.com/group/identification-history/page/specific-pages-in-lynxlace 

IOLI.ORG'S RESOURCES

THE KOON COLLECTION

The Koon collection CD is a collection of images from the Eunice Sein Koon
Collection of Lace donated to IOLI by Ms. Koon. Ms. Koon was the editor of
Lace Craft Quarterly and a collector of lace.  It is not related to the
Minnesota collection to the best of my knowledge.  The CD is a series of
Powerpoint slides organized as the collection pieces are numbered.  There
are approximately 100 pieces of various types of lace in the Koon
collection.  Pictures from the CD could be copied and pasted into another
Powerpoint presentation, or the images could be used to request pieces of
lace from the collection for study by IOLI members.  Policy for use of this
lace is described on p. 58 of the IOLI Member Handbook. -- Jo Ann Eurell

LACE STUDY BOX

The IOLI - Internation Organization of Lace, Inc. has a study box of lace fragments that members can borrow.  

(I am searching for a link)

IOLI also has a lending library for members' use

http://www.internationalorganizationoflace.org/library1.html

http://laceioli.ning.com/group/international-organization-of-lace-inc/page/ioli-advanced-study-of-lace

A site with good photos of high quality antique laces: http://www.mendes.co.uk/antique.bobbin.lace.p.two.html ;

Discussion Forum

Lacemaking history 5 Replies

Please, does anyone know for sure how lace tokens were used in Great Britain in the 1700s?I have read theories that the tokens were given in lieu of governmental coinage due to a coin shortage, but…Continue

Started by Laurie Elliott. Last reply by Laurie Elliott Sep 17.

Need help identifying antique needle-made/tape lace from curtain

I have a group of 5 pieces of this wonderful antique lace, one of which was originally applied to an old, stretchy bobbin-net curtain and the rest were part of the collection.  The wides piece is…Continue

Started by Jeanne B Jun 13.

Lace maker? 5 Replies

This is a little different kind of ID, a question sent to me by a friend - Could this needlework picture perhaps show the woman making lace on a pillow - what do you think?…Continue

Started by Carolyn Wetzel. Last reply by Lorelei Halley Administrator May 30.

More Spanish lace 2 Replies

While pondering the previous lace dress, I came across this piece. I feel that the design is a very Spanish looking one. But is there a name for this kind of design? Any information about where it…Continue

Started by Devon Thein. Last reply by Lorelei Halley Administrator May 23.

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Comment by Barbara Vanselow on March 16, 2017 at 9:55am

Thank you very much, I wasn't sure.

Comment by Carolina de la Guardia on March 16, 2017 at 1:44am
Barbara, this a machine mAde lace...
Comment by Barbara Vanselow on March 15, 2017 at 8:15pm

I am hoping someone can tell me about this lace piece

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Comment by Lorelei Halley Administrator on February 3, 2017 at 5:46pm

Barbara

Your detail1 is close up enough to determine the method. It is definitely a bobbin lace. It is a part lace, meaning the little bits are made with a separate group of bobbins. The green lines follow a motif made of half stitch. The blue lines show motifs made of cloth stitch, or half cloth and half half stitch. The red lines follow braids, going and returning, which hold the whole thing together.

The style is unusual, not the more common laces. Stylistically I would say it dates from around 1900, give or take 10-20 years. It is too coarse for Duchesse. It is definitely not Honiton or English. It is not the rigidly predictable Bruges Bloomwork. It might be what is called "fine Bloomwork", a type halfway between Duchesse and Bloomwork in scale and complexity. But the style is more like some Italian needle laces I have seen. (When I looked at the whole object, I thought it might be Italian needle lace. detail1 showed me it was bobbin lace.) So it might be northern Italian.

Here are links to my pinboard for fine bloomwork, for comparison purposes.

https://www.pinterest.com/lynxlacelady/fine-bloomwork-coarse-duchesse/

Lorelei

Comment by Barbara Vanselow on February 3, 2017 at 10:42am

I know I have seen similar lace on here before, could you give me any information on this lace tableclothtablecloth.JPG

detail2.JPG;   detail1.JPG.

I appreciate your help very much, thank you

Comment by Georgia Seitz on January 10, 2017 at 11:48am

Thanks for those suggestions.

Comment by Helen Bell on January 10, 2017 at 8:12am

I wondered if it was a type of heavy machine lace.  The wheels are woven around, so they're not crochet, and there's a definite back and forth in places.  It looks to be a very heavy thread ....

Comment by Lorelei Halley Administrator on January 9, 2017 at 9:40pm

I am at a loss.  It is NOT bobbin lace, NOT needlelace, NOT a sol lace, NOT filet lacis, NOT tatting. That leaves crochet as a possible, only because it is the last one standing.  There is a style of crochet called "Bruges crochet" and it imitates tape lace. That tape-like element in the design might be "Bruges crochet".

Comment by Georgia Seitz on January 9, 2017 at 4:06pm

Carolyn Groves has asked for help in determining the method used to create this collar. I do not know. Any help most appreciated.

Comment by Lorelei Halley Administrator on January 2, 2017 at 9:41pm

Janice

You posted your photos to our PHOTOS section, which is exactly the correct place. Those photos can be searched, so others can find them easily in the future. I added comments to your photos, describing the pieces. You will have to look at both the photo of the whole object, and the detail photos, because I wasn't consistent about which one I attached the comments to.

Once the photos are in our PHOTOS section, you can then reference them while posting a question here in the IDENTIFICATION-HISTORY group.

Please review my NOTE called "Photos". It will explain various kinds of ways of handling photos.

http://laceioli.ning.com/notes/PHOTOS 

 
 
 

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