For those who love hand made lace.
I just started and would like to eventually use my own home spun thread. There is a thread size chart on pinterest but it doesn't seem to match the thread sizes recommend? Is there a better chart somewhere? Does anyone use home spun thread? I do cotton on a supported spindle. Thankyou!!
We do have some thread charts on this site, but most are for very fine, thin threads. I imagine, not being a spinner, that handspun is likely to be fairly slubby and irregular or inconsistent in thickness. This is not a problem for modern design or contemporary lace. If you learn enough part lace techniques (Bruges bloomwork, Honiton, Duchesse, and tape laces,, etc.) these can be adapted for use in modern part laces, where you have no pinholes predetermined, but you just space the pins as you go, to achieve a good density.
My computer is running very slow. I can't get the links just yet, but I'll do it later this evening.
Thankyou! Cotton does very fine threads but it depends on the skill of the spinner how consistant the diameter is. Lace has so much history they must have spun some of their supplies! Have looked for some living history on lace thread spinning but so far no luck.
Here is a link to a sort of thread size chart I wrote up, with an explanation of how I calculate pattern size relative to thread size.\uap>http://laceioli.ning.com/group/threads/page/thread-size-for-prickin... \uap>I did make a piece once-upon-a-time that used different thread sizes all together. I compensated by pairing a thick thread with a thin thread. \uap>http://api.ning.com/files/tzPLmJj-TTJHm6Hm2VdsvkwxpfCNjCVJujo4uuUUu...*x9MjTxbPev46II95vnBe-2LFAswYWCI/r12g.JPG \uap>Here is a link to the stages in the design process. \uap>http://laceioli.ning.com/group/designing-bobbin-lace/forum/topics/h... \uap>Lorelei
I am also learning to spin fine threads with the goal of getting good enough to make lace with my own spinnings. Right now I'm working with wool/silk blend, as I am a novice spinner. Even so, I have already achieved a fairly consistent diameter on my threads using a Tuirkish spindle. I say, "Go for it, Eva!" I am jealous that you are able to work with cotton and that you have a supported spindle. I'm scared to try it due to the shortness of the staple. Please do share photos once you move on to making lace. I have moved beyond the photo - I could make a thread that thickness with two or possibly even three plies of the singles I'm currently producing. I'll be making lace with my own work as soon as I have enough yardage made up!
I'm allergic to wool. And cotton will grow in a pot here. So cotton it is! My first supported spindle was a dowel rod and a glass bead I had on hand! I'm using a length of bought thread taped to a blue index card to check my diameter of the homespun.
I love the color and your consistency is one of the best I've seen! Whatever you make will be beautiful!! Did you dye the roving?I'm working and reworking a fern bookmark on my new pillow form. Practice makes perfect!! And so fun! Bobbin Lace for Christmas presents!! Hopefully homespun soon. I will post a picture when I can.
I tend to spin very fine as well, although I'm planning to use some handspun wool as gimp in a piece soon. If history is what you are after, try finding some flax to spin. It takes a different technique than cotton or wool. I have been building up a stash of unbleached linen thread from flax I was given. Hopefully I'll have enough spun by this fall to start a lace project just in my handspun linen. I did a small sample of bobbin lace in a very coarse flax I spun for a project, but not enough to really get a feel for how it acts versus the commercial linen I usually use.
I've seen lace projects done in wools and other yarn, but typically those are larger projects, like a scarf in a very openwork torchon.
I have already aquired a bit of flax to practice on once I have finished spinning the wool. I did not dye the wool roving myself - but the colorway is what helped me persist in practicing when I had not enjoyed the process enough to pursue it in the past. :D
I do historical re-enactment for fun, and plan to spin the flax once I have developed sufficiently consistent skill with the wool. I also have some silk roving to play with. For the flax, I've been advised to spin wet - if it isn't humid where you work, lick your fingers or dip them in water as you draft.
As for whitening the spun thread, I one of my most reliable sources has advised to use Sodium Percarbonate (the key ingredient in OxyClean) as bleach will eat the fibers. The historically correct way to whiten linens is to set them in the sun - a lot!
I'm not sure if I will be knitting, crocheting, or needle-tatting my homespun wool, but it will be made into some form of lace once I've spun the entire roving. I will post photos - but it may be years before I get there, as I have a large number of "irons in the fire," and am unable to work on the spinning projects exclusively.
I understand about having a lot of irons in the fire. They say that you cannot die until you complete a certain percentage of the projects you begin. If that's true, I'm immortal!
I, too, love colors. While I have plenty of fiber at home if I see a particularly beautiful color of roving I will get some to play with. No need, just pretty.
I spin my flax wet - it is traditional and makes the line smoother and stronger. I just keep a little bowl of water next to my wheel or in my lap and dip my fingers in as needed. I rather like the unbleached color, so I doubt I'll try to whiten it. And the fresh wet flax smells like honey!
You ladies are all so highly skilled. I shouldn't be surprised. Be sure to show us photos.
I am a spinner on both wheel and all sorts of spindles. I spin both animal and plant fiber on both.
Cotton can be tricky to spin because of its short staple but it can be done with practice and patience. If you can spin cotton sewing thread, you can spin thread to use in bobbin lace. I've used hand spun cotton and linen to tat.
You might want to consider using flax to spin for lace as it has a longer staple than cotton. Linen has a stiffer body than cotton initially but with use and washing becomes softer over time.
I have spun some threads, but only with a hand spindle. Have tried a full spinner that belongs to a woman in my lace group and she said I picked up on it right away. Fine, but..the big spinners are quite expensive. I think it's a wonderful to do. I will have to get mine spindle out again one day. I wish you good luck in doing it. I find it fascinating to just watch it being done..